Herold Gross also added to the EQF
"Thank you, Anna,
for mentioning the opportunities of the EQF to make trainer/ training certificates more transparent and that this instrument is attracting more and more interest not only in Europe.
The interest for EQF is naturally also strong between training of trainers providing institutions. The influence on a competence oriented structure of the certificates may help in the long run to constitute a “reference frame” are going to be compared on the ‘market’.
Trainers have, others as VET teachers, in most of the countries not a recognized “profession”. They often have no “national” or other standard qualification.
In the Defining Vet Professions Project (Cedefop/TTnet) an overwhelming majority of the trainers (fulltime -, trainers in first place or whatever you call them) expressed urgent interest on national “trainers” reference qualification as a need for professionalization and making the profession visible and recognizable.
I personally can’t see, why trainers shouldn’t have a recognized profession and due certifications and I will continue trying to support them on this way. Even in Germany – after long and complicated discussions– we may have soon one (or two) national standard qualifications for the further training of Trainers (Ausbilder).
Reference frameworks can be a first important step to standards. In our TTnet / Cedefop projects on “Defining Vet Professions “ we tried to develop a common reference framework (you can have a look on one example for in-company trainers in the attachment ) as a tool to support professionalization of trainers.
Unfortunately, our discussion started with a touch of polarization of the concepts of trainers training, for example the framework or system-oriented approach against the community –oriented approach, instead of looking more at complementary aspects and taking in account different target groups and stakeholders and asking what may be useful for whom.
In this respect I’m interested in hearing more about the “communities” and have a look on the more practical aspects of training and who trains the trainers and how they learn.
The practitioners, who also do some training, may be closer to the working group or professional community than to a trainers’ or training community.
Many of our free-lance trainers have nice ‘portfolios ‘ of training-certifications delivered by training providers but nevertheless their organization is occupied with standards and looking at the qualifications delivered now also from the academic side."