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		<title>Comment on The Austrian VET-System by ian browne</title>
		<link>http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/2008/08/25/the-austrian-vet-system/comment-page-1/#comment-408</link>
		<dc:creator>ian browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Silva

I wonder if you could help us.

We are undertaking a Masters in Business Administration (MBA) in the United Kingdom with the University of Wolverhampton. One of our modules is Strategy for Public Sector and Social Enterprise and our group has chosen to look at the following: -

‘A comparative study of further education marketing strategies, for employer engagement in the UK and Austria’

Successful employer engagement is about understanding employers business needs, delivering solutions on their terms and successfully achieving the agreed business outcomes.

In the UK, employers may place some of their employees on a course in a further education college. They chose from a list of courses that the college offers. However, generally, employers have very little say as to the content of the course, so courses are not tailored to meet the needs of the company and therefore not always appropriate. 

In the UK the government are encouraging colleges to engage more with employers to identify their busy needs and even tailor courses to suit. Employers in the UK are very often only interested in making a profit and don’t always see the logic in training their staff to improve the status of the company to increase profits. To employers, training therefore, is not a priority and hence colleges are finding it very difficult to engage and communicate with them.

We are therefore looking at ways to try and improve colleges’ marketing strategies to engage more appropriately with employers to encourage training by establishing their business needs. 

The University of Wolverhampton have chosen the beautiful city of Vienna for us to carry out our international research. We would therefore appreciate any information you can share with us on how colleges engage with employers in training and in particular what marketing strategies are used. 

We are due to visit Vienna at the end of March so any information or even a contact name would be gratefully received.

Thank you for your time.

Ian Browne, Richard Harris, Sutinder Herian, Sharron Holding, Jasbir Heer
Students from University of Wolverhampton, United Kingdom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Silva</p>
<p>I wonder if you could help us.</p>
<p>We are undertaking a Masters in Business Administration (MBA) in the United Kingdom with the University of Wolverhampton. One of our modules is Strategy for Public Sector and Social Enterprise and our group has chosen to look at the following: -</p>
<p>‘A comparative study of further education marketing strategies, for employer engagement in the UK and Austria’</p>
<p>Successful employer engagement is about understanding employers business needs, delivering solutions on their terms and successfully achieving the agreed business outcomes.</p>
<p>In the UK, employers may place some of their employees on a course in a further education college. They chose from a list of courses that the college offers. However, generally, employers have very little say as to the content of the course, so courses are not tailored to meet the needs of the company and therefore not always appropriate. </p>
<p>In the UK the government are encouraging colleges to engage more with employers to identify their busy needs and even tailor courses to suit. Employers in the UK are very often only interested in making a profit and don’t always see the logic in training their staff to improve the status of the company to increase profits. To employers, training therefore, is not a priority and hence colleges are finding it very difficult to engage and communicate with them.</p>
<p>We are therefore looking at ways to try and improve colleges’ marketing strategies to engage more appropriately with employers to encourage training by establishing their business needs. </p>
<p>The University of Wolverhampton have chosen the beautiful city of Vienna for us to carry out our international research. We would therefore appreciate any information you can share with us on how colleges engage with employers in training and in particular what marketing strategies are used. </p>
<p>We are due to visit Vienna at the end of March so any information or even a contact name would be gratefully received.</p>
<p>Thank you for your time.</p>
<p>Ian Browne, Richard Harris, Sutinder Herian, Sharron Holding, Jasbir Heer<br />
Students from University of Wolverhampton, United Kingdom</p>
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		<title>Comment on Data security by jonvet</title>
		<link>http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/2008/08/29/data-security/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>jonvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst this subject is important it might be better to have entitled is &quot;personal data security&quot;. Data security is a wider topic and could relate to the security of the whole site and/or more importantly to the security of data relating to learners/students on wider projects or programmes. This is a pertinent subject especially because of one or two well publicised instances in the UK and under review by more than one quango in the UK at present. I should have more info about this in a few weeks time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst this subject is important it might be better to have entitled is &#8220;personal data security&#8221;. Data security is a wider topic and could relate to the security of the whole site and/or more importantly to the security of data relating to learners/students on wider projects or programmes. This is a pertinent subject especially because of one or two well publicised instances in the UK and under review by more than one quango in the UK at present. I should have more info about this in a few weeks time</p>
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		<title>Comment on Data security by Cristina Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/2008/08/29/data-security/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Cristina Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a good one, isn&#039;t it! 
I will prepare a post about it, so it becomes more visible within the network.
thank you for bringing this up. It&#039;s something really important. ;-)

Ich wünsche Ihnen ein gutes Wochenende! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good one, isn&#8217;t it!<br />
I will prepare a post about it, so it becomes more visible within the network.<br />
thank you for bringing this up. It&#8217;s something really important. <img src='http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ich wünsche Ihnen ein gutes Wochenende! <img src='http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Data security by silvia</title>
		<link>http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/2008/08/29/data-security/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>silvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again Cristina,

I now read the netiquet (by the link you posted). I think that would be a good draft for us! And ... the quiz is really very nice!

Silvia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Cristina,</p>
<p>I now read the netiquet (by the link you posted). I think that would be a good draft for us! And &#8230; the quiz is really very nice!</p>
<p>Silvia</p>
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		<title>Comment on Data security by silvia</title>
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		<dc:creator>silvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cristina,

Of course, you are right normally you assume that people who take part in a platform are serious and interessted in the topic and don´t want kidding. I don´t think that the members, you and our colleges act insecure with data. But there are also &quot;web-pirates&quot; or &quot;funny people&quot; who are not interessted in the community, they like to register everywhere and post all around the web beside the originally content. Maybe I am to fearful, maybe the other participants don´t think we need this private policy.

Giving the platform a &quot;netiquet&quot; I think would be a good idea, the community gives itself a &quot;framework&quot; for the content.

I am also looking forward what the other participants think about this suggestion. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cristina,</p>
<p>Of course, you are right normally you assume that people who take part in a platform are serious and interessted in the topic and don´t want kidding. I don´t think that the members, you and our colleges act insecure with data. But there are also &#8220;web-pirates&#8221; or &#8220;funny people&#8221; who are not interessted in the community, they like to register everywhere and post all around the web beside the originally content. Maybe I am to fearful, maybe the other participants don´t think we need this private policy.</p>
<p>Giving the platform a &#8220;netiquet&#8221; I think would be a good idea, the community gives itself a &#8220;framework&#8221; for the content.</p>
<p>I am also looking forward what the other participants think about this suggestion. <img src='http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Data security by Cristina Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/2008/08/29/data-security/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Cristina Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Silvia, 
Thanks for your post! :-)
This is actually a hot topic and I look forward to reading other participants&#039; opinions. 
I had never thought about it in this terms.
I always assume that people who join networks as these (educated people with a specific purpose) do so because they are interested in taking part in a communal learning environment, and will therefore adopt an attitude which will benefit their identity as participants and contribute to a agreeable learning atmosphere! ...that has been my experience, but I may be wrong. However, I like to trust people until they prove me wrong. 

As far as Netiquette goes- That&#039;s a good reminder! Thank you so much. :-)
I like this resource a lot: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/ . 
I also found the quiz very interesting and Important http://www.albion.com/netiquette/netiquiz.html
It&#039;s a good, quick exercise.
Thanks for reminding us about this! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Silvia,<br />
Thanks for your post! <img src='http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
This is actually a hot topic and I look forward to reading other participants&#8217; opinions.<br />
I had never thought about it in this terms.<br />
I always assume that people who join networks as these (educated people with a specific purpose) do so because they are interested in taking part in a communal learning environment, and will therefore adopt an attitude which will benefit their identity as participants and contribute to a agreeable learning atmosphere! &#8230;that has been my experience, but I may be wrong. However, I like to trust people until they prove me wrong. </p>
<p>As far as Netiquette goes- That&#8217;s a good reminder! Thank you so much. <img src='http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I like this resource a lot: <a href="http://www.albion.com/netiquette/" rel="nofollow">http://www.albion.com/netiquette/</a> .<br />
I also found the quiz very interesting and Important <a href="http://www.albion.com/netiquette/netiquiz.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.albion.com/netiquette/netiquiz.html</a><br />
It&#8217;s a good, quick exercise.<br />
Thanks for reminding us about this! <img src='http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Austrian VET-System by silvia</title>
		<link>http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/2008/08/25/the-austrian-vet-system/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>silvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liebe Cristina,

Vielen Dank für das Tutorial - jetzt kann ich auch zwinkern und lächeln! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liebe Cristina,</p>
<p>Vielen Dank für das Tutorial &#8211; jetzt kann ich auch zwinkern und lächeln! <img src='http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Austrian VET-System by Cristina Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/2008/08/25/the-austrian-vet-system/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Cristina Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liebe Silvia!

Jetzt Können Sie auch die Smileys in Ihren Posts benutzen. 

Ein klein Tutorial wie es gemacht wird ist hier http://knowmansland.com/trainersineu/using_emotions.html  zur Verfügung.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liebe Silvia!</p>
<p>Jetzt Können Sie auch die Smileys in Ihren Posts benutzen. </p>
<p>Ein klein Tutorial wie es gemacht wird ist hier <a href="http://knowmansland.com/trainersineu/using_emotions.html" rel="nofollow">http://knowmansland.com/trainersineu/using_emotions.html</a>  zur Verfügung.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Austrian VET-System by Cristina Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/2008/08/25/the-austrian-vet-system/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Cristina Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>started with the easier one- but will read the German one son too. Good vocabulary there to learn! ;-)
Will do tutorial on smileys tomorrow.
It quite similar (actually the same) as smileys in chat  rooms and communications tools such as skype.

eg.:

Smile- : + - + ) (don&#039;t use spaces or +) and you will get this :-)

wink - ; + - + ) and you get this ;-)

More tomorrow!

Machen Sie es gut!
Bis Spaeter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>started with the easier one- but will read the German one son too. Good vocabulary there to learn! <img src='http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Will do tutorial on smileys tomorrow.<br />
It quite similar (actually the same) as smileys in chat  rooms and communications tools such as skype.</p>
<p>eg.:</p>
<p>Smile- : + &#8211; + ) (don&#8217;t use spaces or +) and you will get this <img src='http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>wink &#8211; ; + &#8211; + ) and you get this <img src='http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>More tomorrow!</p>
<p>Machen Sie es gut!<br />
Bis Spaeter!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Austrian VET-System by silvia</title>
		<link>http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/2008/08/25/the-austrian-vet-system/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>silvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Cristina,

thanks for your answers! What about your German? Do you read the factsheet-versions in english or german :)?

... and how can a get this lovely little smilies????

Silvia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Cristina,</p>
<p>thanks for your answers! What about your German? Do you read the factsheet-versions in english or german <img src='http://www.trainersineurope.org/silvia/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ?</p>
<p>&#8230; and how can a get this lovely little smilies????</p>
<p>Silvia</p>
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